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Old 06-06-2013, 09:54 PM   #16
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Thanks for the great advice everyone! Lots to think about. I will only be using bullnose on outside corners only to prevent paint issues. It is good to know that the additive makes it harder to sand and only using water for the final coat. As far as the crown molding, it has its advantages and people that have used it seem to like it. It is easier and faster to put up, cheaper, and you won,t end up with gaps where it pulls away from the ceiling when the seasons change. It looks the same and you probably wouldn't know unless you climbed up a ladder.

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I would know I don't use vinyl trim wood only and mostly stain grade. The white look it going away. Wood is coming back in vogue again.
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the vinyl crown does look pretty good but i've only put it up for looks but as far as faster cheaper and won't crack i dont think so. i think taping the corner is faster, its not cheaper then a $5 roll of tape. and i'd be more worried with cracks with that crown then a properly done corner. the only thing that might happen with the season change is screw pops. to prevent that keep your screws 4-8" away from the corner. and ya wood is coming back but average joe can't afford it so it wont be making a big come back anytime soon
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the vinyl crown does look pretty good but i've only put it up for looks but as far as faster cheaper and won't crack i dont think so. i think taping the corner is faster, its not cheaper then a $5 roll of tape. and i'd be more worried with cracks with that crown then a properly done corner. the only thing that might happen with the season change is screw pops. to prevent that keep your screws 4-8" away from the corner. and ya wood is coming back but average joe can't afford it so it wont be making a big come back anytime soon
Prince crown moulding hasn't anything to do with the corner. I don't know about faster, except you don't have to finish it, but yes it won't crack. And to put it up you use glue and stables. so no screw pops. This product is made by trim tex all they make is drywall products. Another great product is their EZ Tray, it lets you change a regular ceiling to a tray ceiling with no demo. Just a kit and some drywall. Check out their website. They make about a hundred different corner beads.
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the vinyl crown does look pretty good but i've only put it up for looks but as far as faster cheaper and won't crack i dont think so. i think taping the corner is faster, its not cheaper then a $5 roll of tape. and i'd be more worried with cracks with that crown then a properly done corner. the only thing that might happen with the season change is screw pops. to prevent that keep your screws 4-8" away from the corner. and ya wood is coming back but average joe can't afford it so it wont be making a big come back anytime soon
My comparison on cost was referring to vinyl vs traditional crown molding. Tape would certainly be the cheapest way to go.
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i know of all the different products trimtex makes and yes i know its installed with glue and staples and im saying that i'd be more worried about the crown joint where there is glue and staples cracking with the seasons.
and ohhh ya gotcha on the price comparison with vinyl vs. traditional
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If you're using a quick set vinyl bullnose would be fine and easier to put on. You'd have to hit it pretty hard to bust it loose....vinyl works just fine in my book
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I think the Tape Buddy would slow down a pro. But I think for a novice homeowner, it seems just about perfect.

I would NEVER bevel off the Butt Joints. It serves absolutely no purpose. But if you have not yet hung the board (and the AHJ doesn't object), I would research, and use, Butt Boards. They will give you just about perfectly smooth and flat butt joints. Hanging boards the conventional way cannot, and never will, do that.
The Tape Buddy presupposes that nobody ever invented the banjo!

I'm too klutzy - I'd end up with a pool of mud on the floor!

For around the same price point (pardon the expression) you'd be better off with the Homax 6500 banjo:

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...3Atape%20buddy

But for a few bucks more, my favorite is:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wal-Board...5#.UbKfBtnldbx

As for butt joints, the buttboard idea is great, if available, but you can make your own:

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-...tt-joints.aspx

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