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smitty72 12-28-2012 08:30 PM

Checking the quality of drywall work
 
Ahh the all important question: how do I know if I've hired a pro or a schmuck??!!

As the drywall is being installed (prior to tape/mud), what should I be looking for to evaluate the quality of workmanship? More specifically, what things should I look for that would say I've hired the schmuck?

oh'mike 12-28-2012 08:57 PM

That's a tough question----are the using long full sheets? Are they running the sheets over doors and windows and then cutting the openings? (This avoids seams and tape in the corners of the openings.

Where did you find these hangers and tapers?

Are they quick and efficient?

Seeing the past work is the best indicator of future work----If you got these guys without checking up---you will just have to wait and see---

princelake 12-28-2012 09:19 PM

i always think that people will judge me and my work by the vehicle and the condition and also my condition. if the guy pulls into your driveway with an old beat up dirty truck, his vehicle is not organized with tools,dust,etc. falling out. also the same goes for the guy in the vehicle. is he clean cut or a sloppy hairy bushman with dirty clothes with holes in them? These are typically your first signs to take caution but there are always the exceptions. the same goes for his work and work area. is there tools everywhere? garbage all over the floor? Does his work look like clean work? does it look messy or does it look like its reasonably straight and professional looking? i find someone who takes pride in his work typically is a clean neat person that tries to act professional and if something doesn't turn out exactly right or the way you like it they'll suck up their pride and happily fix it to the best of their ability.

oldrivers 12-28-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by princelake (Post 1081597)
i always think that people will judge me and my work by the vehicle and the condition and also my condition. if the guy pulls into your driveway with an old beat up dirty truck, his vehicle is not organized with tools,dust,etc. falling out. also the same goes for the guy in the vehicle. is he clean cut or a sloppy hairy bushman with dirty clothes with holes in them? These are typically your first signs to take caution but there are always the exceptions. the same goes for his work and work area. is there tools everywhere? garbage all over the floor? Does his work look like clean work? does it look messy or does it look like its reasonably straight and professional looking? i find someone who takes pride in his work typically is a clean neat person that tries to act professional and if something doesn't turn out exactly right or the way you like it they'll suck up their pride and happily fix it to the best of their ability.

you just described me LOL i drive a piece of chit vehilce look like a caveman .

i want my work and only my work to be judged . if they dont like the look of my vehicle or me thats ok . LOL . :thumbsup:

princelake 12-28-2012 09:45 PM

you are probably being judged when you pull in and knock on the door before you even pick up a tool. and before i get shot down theres nothing wrong with an old truck as long as its kept clean and presentable.

scottktmrider 12-28-2012 10:31 PM

Is the hanger doing the taping?Or do you have another contractor for the taping?

I would say the most important things are dont use nails except on corner beads.And dont have any joints on the corner of any opening such as door window etc.

Gary in WA 12-28-2012 10:44 PM

http://bestdrywall.com/files/ReduceCallbacks.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=IS-...0paper&f=false

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/PDF/Free/021174058.pdf

http://www.usg.com/documents/constru...k/chapter5.pdf

http://www.usg.com/rc/installation-a...de-en-J371.pdf

http://www.lafargenorthamerica.com/G...%20English.pdf

http://www.nationalgypsum.com/resour...evisiting.aspx

I've got more if you need them but that should keep you reading over the weekend...

Gary

forcedreno2012 12-29-2012 06:22 AM

Dammit GBR I was going to go to bed before the sun came up for a change and I have spent the last hour sucked into your bedtime reading lol :laughing:

Thanks for the links.

ToolSeeker 12-29-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by princelake (Post 1081597)
i always think that people will judge me and my work by the vehicle and the condition and also my condition. if the guy pulls into your driveway with an old beat up dirty truck, his vehicle is not organized with tools,dust,etc. falling out. also the same goes for the guy in the vehicle. is he clean cut or a sloppy hairy bushman with dirty clothes with holes in them? These are typically your first signs to take caution but there are always the exceptions. the same goes for his work and work area. is there tools everywhere? garbage all over the floor? Does his work look like clean work? does it look messy or does it look like its reasonably straight and professional looking? i find someone who takes pride in his work typically is a clean neat person that tries to act professional and if something doesn't turn out exactly right or the way you like it they'll suck up their pride and happily fix it to the best of their ability.

I think this is a very over looked part of a business presentation. As is communication. I don't know how to do the double quote but olrivers in an ideal world you may be right. But it's hard to get people who have already judged you to look at your work. If you don't have enough pride to clean up your equipment and yourself, why would I feel you would take any pride in your work.

drywallfinisher 12-29-2012 11:13 AM

dude , I'd kick you right out the door if you pulled up all spotless and perfect....thanks for the laugh though!
Quote:

Originally Posted by princelake (Post 1081597)
i always think that people will judge me and my work by the vehicle and the condition and also my condition. if the guy pulls into your driveway with an old beat up dirty truck, his vehicle is not organized with tools,dust,etc. falling out. also the same goes for the guy in the vehicle. is he clean cut or a sloppy hairy bushman with dirty clothes with holes in them? These are typically your first signs to take caution but there are always the exceptions. the same goes for his work and work area. is there tools everywhere? garbage all over the floor? Does his work look like clean work? does it look messy or does it look like its reasonably straight and professional looking? i find someone who takes pride in his work typically is a clean neat person that tries to act professional and if something doesn't turn out exactly right or the way you like it they'll suck up their pride and happily fix it to the best of their ability.

ask to see their very last job.
if they are a quality crew their last job should be fairly recent. Good finishers are still busy even in the financial crisis.

take a small drywall knife and press it into a few angles and pull it down. If the screws are still hanging out you'll know if they are bogus.

oldrivers 12-29-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1081739)
I think this is a very over looked part of a business presentation. As is communication. I don't know how to do the double quote but olrivers in an ideal world you may be right. But it's hard to get people who have already judged you to look at your work. If you don't have enough pride to clean up your equipment and yourself, why would I feel you would take any pride in your work.


yeah i know people have ways of looking at things , the last person i worked with spent 30,000 on a new truck custom paint etc and it gets banged up in parking lots , another guy i know got his truck all repainted and a lady backied into it with a bike carrier , now my piece of **** truck i dont care go ahead and bang into it , almost every newer work vehicle i see is dented up , LOL no one hits my piece of crap for some reason , ive done the new vehicle thing and its a waste of time and money . never again will i use a nice vehicle for work .

oh'mike 12-29-2012 02:37 PM

Interesting debate---My truck is a tool like all tools---It works hard and serves it's purpose.

Strong and useful for me--pretty is not a big deal in my world----

newfie49 12-29-2012 05:29 PM

quality drywall work = tight joints, full sheets hung, screws sunk in properly, its not hard to spot poorly hung and cut drywall, just watch how a crew or individual hangs, ragged cuts, slow cutting, poorly cut boxes, receptacles, etc,
too much scrap and waste, I could spot a smuck in 2 minutes and send them on their way, with the downturn of the economy if a guy has hung a piece of drywall, all of a sudden he thinks he's a professional, handymen is what they are referred to here in the south, after seeing one hang a piece of drywall....beware!

drywallfinisher 12-29-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by newfie49 (Post 1082028)
quality drywall work = tight joints, full sheets hung, screws sunk in properly, its not hard to spot poorly hung and cut drywall, just watch how a crew or individual hangs, ragged cuts, slow cutting, poorly cut boxes, receptacles, etc,
too much scrap and waste, I could spot a smuck in 2 minutes and send them on their way, with the downturn of the economy if a guy has hung a piece of drywall, all of a sudden he thinks he's a professional, handymen is what they are referred to here in the south, after seeing one hang a piece of drywall....beware!

great point!

princelake 12-29-2012 07:50 PM

i said before your truck doesnt have to be new. im saying dont show up right after you went mud bogging or something. i banged into a guard rail a month ago and the back corner of my new van is smashed up a bit at the back fender but its still clean and organized and i wont be embarrassed to back it up and open the back doors. to me its like going to a job interview going to every new job. its all about presentation.
drywall finisher you'd kick me out because im clean and know what i'm doing and dont get covered head to toe in mud? i may look like bit of a sqaure but a first presentation is everything.


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