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Old 08-19-2013, 12:52 PM   #16
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Sorry bags but there is a 3rd option. Fix it right!
Yes your right. for him doing a complete sanding off of the mud down to paper then re doing the tape and mud and his skill levels might be basic? my suggestions are based on skill level and time and money. are either to skim coat the whole ceiling or shoot it with texture and do a knock down the latter is entry skill level the first is high skill level. Which one based on skill level would you suggest to a novice? I think my suggestion will work. The real issue is education of people to the hazards of mesh tape.


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Old 08-19-2013, 05:06 PM   #17
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Yes your right. for him doing a complete sanding off of the mud down to paper then re doing the tape and mud and his skill levels might be basic? my suggestions are based on skill level and time and money. are either to skim coat the whole ceiling or shoot it with texture and do a knock down the latter is entry skill level the first is high skill level. Which one based on skill level would you suggest to a novice? I think my suggestion will work. The real issue is education of people to the hazards of mesh tape.
Here is what my reply is based on-he said he had experience with dry wall and taping. If he removes the tape a lot of the old mud will come with it. Then if he gets the roughest sanding screen he can find the rest will sand pretty easy. Then when he tapes and muds all he needs is thin coats and feather them out. I have found heavy texture especially ceilings to be very messy and not really an easy job. But about the mesh tape I totally agree, it should be illegal to even sell that crap.
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When we bought this house 20 years ago there were some seam cracks in the addition ceiling. I ran paper and regular mud along those and "thought" I had them feathered in. When the light hits it right you can see the bulge but the cracks never reappeared. I used several roles of mesh over the years that did not crack right away like these have. My blissful ignorance has been shattered. I have gotten much better at feathering out a joint since then so it looks like another bucket of mud and some paper is in order. I bought a hopper gun and knock down knife a few years back but haven't had the opportunity to use either. Now I find myself apprehensive about ing it all up with that! Good thing I take medication for anxiety.
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Pole that is the problem with mesh tape you can use it and as long as nothing ever moves it will last. But the slightest movement will cause cracking. And I really mean slight movement. Take a piece of mesh tape and hold opposing corners now very gently pull in opposite directions and you will see why it can't take movement.
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Well I've been schooled. All my remaining mesh went to the dump.
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If mesh were made of an absorbent material rather than plastic, and the fibers were larger and the holes smaller, it might work. It would be nice if they could invent something that had the strength of paper and the convenience of mesh to apply.
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hang a 2nd layer
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That's pretty extreme for just a seam that cracked, don't you think.
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If mesh were made of an absorbent material rather than plastic, and the fibers were larger and the holes smaller, it might work. It would be nice if they could invent something that had the strength of paper and the convenience of mesh to apply.
I have seen paper with holes peppered all through it. Never investigated what it was for though....too busy grabbing the mesh that was next to it.
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I think that would probably be paper corner bead. Not really sure why it's designed that way.

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