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Old 08-18-2013, 06:44 AM   #1
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Ceiling seams all cracked!


I didn't do my homework on drywall installation and stepped right in it. I used mesh tape and regular bucket mud on the joints and all but one of them on the ceiling have failed. I am looking for a consensus from the pros on what my options are.

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Old 08-18-2013, 07:51 AM   #2
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You are in trouble---

I don't know an easy fix----how many sheets have you done--wrong??

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It is a 12 X 24 room - 9 sheets. Plus I have already primed it with stain block.
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Oh, ---ceilings---Let's see if someone has a magic bullet---

My only solution is to pull as much mesh out as possible and the use paper tape--set into multipurpose(green lid) then bedded into another coat of multipurpose--topped with Light Weight ----blue lid

You will need to feather out the seams rather wide to hide the unusually deep coating.

Arggggg!!! Why did you do that????
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I have gotten away with using mesh on partitions for years. I just didn't know......
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If you do use mesh, the stuff must be bedded in multipurpose or bag mud( easy sand)---blue topping compound is to soft and frequently cracks----
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There are some good drywall pros here---Let's see what they have to say---

I do a lot of drywall---but I don't know an answer to this one---I'm a paper tape guy---(because I have seen your situation and did not want to be in your shoes)--Mike----
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If it is just cracked you can tape (paper) over it. But I would suggest either hot mud, powdered that you mix with water. Or use all purpose in bucket with bright green lid. If you go with the all purpose try to find a product called Mud Max from Trim Tex. The reason for these products is they add a lot of strength to the mud so if the mud underneath continues to crack it won't effect the top. And check for any movement along the seams, you may need to add some screws. Hope this helps.
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I'd want to rip it out and redo with paper. However, while paper rips out very cleanly, mesh might break. I haven't ripped out mesh on long sections like that so I don't know how it would work. I'd find out though
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[QUOTE=PoleCat;1230770]It is a 12 X 24 room - 9 sheets. Plus I have already primed it with stain block.[/QUOTE]


why?
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It is a 12 X 24 room - 9 sheets. Plus I have already primed it with stain block.[/QUOTE]


why?
Why not? It serves as a good sealant/primer. The cracks were not there yet.
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If it is just cracked you can tape (paper) over it. But I would suggest either hot mud, powdered that you mix with water. Or use all purpose in bucket with bright green lid. If you go with the all purpose try to find a product called Mud Max from Trim Tex. The reason for these products is they add a lot of strength to the mud so if the mud underneath continues to crack it won't effect the top. And check for any movement along the seams, you may need to add some screws. Hope this helps.
Hot mud & paper get along OK?
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You will be happier with Multipurpose (green lid)

Hot mud is not as sticky----and is more difficult to use----if you are not in a rush---use the green lid to apply the tape----
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Well well well. You got a mess on your hands. Don't worry about the primer. After I sheet rock I hit with a PVA then I texture it then PVA again. So your priming it not a problem. Your ceiling cracked. Two things you can do both will require a heavy texture or knock down orange peal to fix it. First both are risky to do. 1 pull the mesh out then paper tape. your going to be trying to tape a four inch wide divot and it may create a larger build up as you try to feather it out. After massive sanding? You will need to texture your ceiling. your second option is to just go and do a heavy texture with beadex fast texture and hope that no more cracks show up, yes risky to just hit it with texture but it does work. That is your options. Now here is the why it is your options. Texture hides mistakes and blemishes you have both. And beadex is fast drying very low shrinkage. I sure hope that helps?

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Well well well. You got a mess on your hands. Don't worry about the primer. After I sheet rock I hit with a PVA then I texture it then PVA again. So your priming it not a problem. Your ceiling cracked. Two things you can do both will require a heavy texture or knock down orange peal to fix it. First both are risky to do. 1 pull the mesh out then paper tape. your going to be trying to tape a four inch wide divot and it may create a larger build up as you try to feather it out. After massive sanding? You will need to texture your ceiling. your second option is to just go and do a heavy texture with beadex fast texture and hope that no more cracks show up, yes risky to just hit it with texture but it does work. That is your options. Now here is the why it is your options. Texture hides mistakes and blemishes you have both. And beadex is fast drying very low shrinkage. I sure hope that helps?
Sorry bags but there is a 3rd option. Fix it right!

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