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Tomperro 10-02-2011 03:00 PM

Ceiling
 
Hi, I just put drywall on my 20x11 garage ceiling. The joists are 24 inch on center and I add some 1x2's perpendicular to the joists at 8 ft. everything looked good so I taped and spackled. I used joint compound and fiberglass tape. After about a week the seems that are perpendicular to joist have all cracked. I was reading that the fiberglass tape can do that. Any opinions?
Also, how can I repair this?
Mud over the crack the way it is?
Pull old tape out and retape with paper tape????

Any ideas????

Thanks,
Tom

OhioHomeDoctor 10-02-2011 03:07 PM

If you are able to pull the old tape out do that. If not paper tape over the cracks. You should of hung 5/8 with two foot span.

Tomperro 10-02-2011 03:09 PM

I believe I used only 1/4 inch is that bad?

OhioHomeDoctor 10-02-2011 03:12 PM

Yes. 1/4 is not rated for walls or ceilings. Its only for laminating. This being said either tear out and block properly or laminate the ceiling with 5/8. Make sure you use right length screws. Best wishes.

Tomperro 10-02-2011 03:13 PM

I'm sorry, but what do you mean by laminate?
Thanks

Willie T 10-02-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomperro (Post 740444)
I'm sorry, but what do you mean by laminate?
Thanks

He means that you only use 1/4" for simply layering (laminating) right over original wall surfaces....... or in this case, leave the 1/4" up there and install 5/8" ceiling rated board over it, screwing it in well.

Tearing out the 1/4" is best because otherwise the 5/8" will have to support the possibly sagging 1/4".

And try to get away from the mesh tape. Mesh tape needs to be installed with something like Durabond for the bed coat, or it almost always tends to crack later on.

Bud Cline 10-02-2011 05:07 PM

What is your frequency of nailing? How often did you nail the drywall? What is your nail pattern? Don't know how to ask the question.:)

I must be mis-understanding your first post. If what I am understanding is correct then you can expect the entire ceiling to come down on its own after a few rainy days.:)

Willie T 10-02-2011 05:21 PM

After a few beers today, I'm feeling humorous, Bud. He might answer like this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud Cline (Post 740538)
What is your frequency of nailing? About one job every three years, or so. How often did you nail the drywall? Every time I hung a sheet. What is your nail pattern? They're round, with flat heads. Don't know how to ask the question.:)

I must be mis-understanding your first post. If what I am understanding is correct then you can expect the entire ceiling to come down on its own after a few rainy days.:)

Sorry, I just get this bug sometimes. You know how it is. :yes:

Bud Cline 10-02-2011 05:24 PM

LMAO
Makes my day. I was getting pretty bored here until now.:thumbup:

ROFLMAO:laughing:

Based on what's been done so far you could be right.:)

Willie T 10-02-2011 05:29 PM

I know this is a DIY forum, but wouldn't you think that if someone went to HD, and saw 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", Fire Rated, Ceiling Rated, Cement Board, Blue Board, Green Board, etc in all these different piles that he just might be inclined to think that perhaps he needs to arm himself with a tad more information about all this drywall stuff before launching into such a major undertaking as a ceiling?

Bud Cline 10-02-2011 05:39 PM

Quote:

I know this is a DIY forum, but wouldn't you think that if someone went to HD, and saw 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", Fire Rated, Ceiling Rated, Cement Board, Blue Board, Green Board, etc in all these different piles that he just might be inclined to think that perhaps he needs to arm himself with a tad more information about all this drywall stuff before launching into such a major undertaking as a ceiling?
Nope!
Not with what I see here on a daily basis. It's no different than building a bridge over a creek with Lincoln Logs.:)

Tomperro 10-02-2011 05:58 PM

Wow, not the responses I was looking for!

OhioHomeDoctor 10-02-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomperro
Wow, not the responses I was looking for!

Next time post project before beginning. Then you will get priceless free advice.

Bud Cline 10-02-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Wow, not the responses I was looking for!
Why not?

Did you come here to be lied to and told what good job you had done? Be careful walking in that garage, that ceiling could come down at any time. You still haven't answered my questions about the nailing schedule you used. How is it all nailed?

Do DIY'ers think that these DIY Forums are populated by only unknowing DIYers that will praise someone for not doing their homework BEFORE they start a project?

This place is full of experienced professionals in every field of the building trades that know their stuff, one should expect to be "set-straight" when they do silly things.:)

OhioHomeDoctor 10-02-2011 06:20 PM

You could do a diy(1xs) coffered ceiling grid over the boards to hold them up.


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