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Oxymoron 01-31-2010 08:14 AM

Butt end to tapered end?
 
Finishing basement walls and trying to have as few butt joints as possible....looks like I'll have one. Question is which is a better choice for finishing....butt against tapered or butt to butt?

diykc 01-31-2010 09:05 AM

No, rolled edge(tapered) against rolled edge and butt to butt but never butt to tapered. Maybe a little more rock to use but filling is very difficult.

diykc 01-31-2010 09:11 AM

No, rolled edge(tapered) against rolled edge and butt to butt but never butt to tapered. Maybe a little more rock to use but filling is very difficult.

amakarevic 05-17-2012 11:43 PM

is it really not possible to seam a butt edge to a tapered edge? why not just fill the hole in the butt side with more mud?

thanks

joecaption 05-18-2012 09:14 AM

Unless you remove the paper to make room for the thickness of the tape on the untapered edge your going to end up with a hump and a really wide joint to blend it in.

amakarevic 05-18-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 923938)
Unless you remove the paper to make room for the thickness of the tape on the untapered edge your going to end up with a hump and a really wide joint to blend it in.

how come you don't get a tape hump when you join two butt ends?

joecaption 05-18-2012 11:01 AM

Because the tapes sitting in the low area so there only enough mud used to fill in the low area where the taper is, not all over the wall board.

If the taps sitting on the wall board there has to be a tapered out area to cover the tape.

RayGee 05-18-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption
Because the tapes sitting in the low area so there only enough mud used to fill in the low area where the taper is, not all over the wall board.

If the taps sitting on the wall board there has to be a tapered out area to cover the tape.

I believe his question was taping joints butt end to butt end vs. tapered to tapered.

Seattle2k 05-22-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxymoron (Post 392058)
Finishing basement walls and trying to have as few butt joints as possible....looks like I'll have one. Question is which is a better choice for finishing....butt against tapered or butt to butt?


You can certainly make a butt-to-taper work. First, fill the tapered side with joint compound, using an 8 or 10-inch knife. Once this is dried, you'll essentially be left with a butt-to-butt joint. Then, lay mud, to bed your tape and finish as usual.

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Originally Posted by amakarevic (Post 923770)
is it really not possible to seam a butt edge to a tapered edge? why not just fill the hole in the butt side with more mud?

thanks


You have the right idea. For whatever reason, I ended up with a joint like this recently and I was able to hide it without much trouble.

stradt03 05-23-2012 09:40 PM

[quote=Seattle2k;926558]You can certainly make a butt-to-taper work. First, fill the tapered side with joint compound, using an 8 or 10-inch knife. Once this is dried, you'll essentially be left with a butt-to-butt joint. Then, lay mud, to bed your tape and finish as usual.

Bingo, I have 2 butt-taper joints in my basement and I think they might be two of the best seams in the whole basement.

bjbatlanta 06-01-2012 07:16 PM

There are many situations in hanging drywall where there is NO option but to put a tapered edge to a non-tapered edge. I've hung many houses with rooms where the ceiling joists change direction and there's no choice. A professional finisher has no issues with these joints. A DIY'er can finish them too. Just take a little more time and effort. And removing the paper from the drywall will compromise the integrity of the board. You DON'T want to do that.....

princelake 06-02-2012 10:12 AM

i do tapered to butts all the time. basements floods where the bottom 2' of drywall is cut out in the entire basements. i can fiber tape or paper tape it. its fairly simple and you cant even tell there was a joint even there.

revchris 05-18-2013 11:53 AM

Thanks Seattle2k. Great tip on joining butt and tapered ends!

Dorado 05-18-2013 01:11 PM

I think pre-filling is good practice for all joints. If pre-filled, butt to taper would be stronger than butt to butt.

ToolSeeker 05-18-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dorado (Post 1181908)
I think pre-filling is good practice for all joints. If pre-filled, butt to taper would be stronger than butt to butt.

Butt to taper would not be stronger unless the pre-fill was dura bond. The taper would be too wide to cover with tape and just joint compound does't have that much strength.


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