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Old 06-08-2013, 09:24 AM   #16
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I just have an adversion to being "worked" or "played" or "handled" when I recognize it. And I have a problem trusting companies that push that angle.
As long as there are men and money, there will be angles. Hopefully you and I will keep on the straight and narrow....

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As long as there are men and money, there will be angles. Hopefully you and I will keep on the straight and narrow....
To tell the truth, I haven't always done so.
My wife once had a company where we raked in some seriously big money, hand over fist. But we had to plant "beliefs" or "assumptions" in people's minds to do it. And we did. And it worked. Very well. P. T. Barnum told it right when said there is a sucker born every minute.

But it began to bother us. It even began to ooze over into other aspects of our lives. We were fast becoming greedy, self centered people that I didn't like to look at in the mirror.

We changed much of that.

Took some doing. And it hurt to see our income drop as we reigned it in. But we like ourselves better now.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:05 PM   #18
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Interesting how a simple query on a tool sparked a debate covering grammar/syntax, economics 101, all the way to what could be described as morality....

At any rate, tool is mine. For the question on how much drywalling needed to be done, I just did a rough calculation....I will need to hang about 35 sheets over 3 rooms.

I guess I could have gotten one of those bit things....but I have a slight tool fetish, and the Bosch seemed like a decent investment for the price and some reviews I saw. I also have friends who do a lot of DIY, and we sort of have a loaner tool circle going on.
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Unless you plan on going into the drywall hanging business I can not see spending money on a single use tool at any price.
I bought 2, Ridgid brand drywall guns that got used one time. My guys when back to using impact drivers and the dimple tools and could do it just as fast and it was cordless.
I've been trying to 2 years to sell the two guns on Craigs list with no calls.
Joe -- which bit and/or dimpler do you use on your impact gun? I've heard since most dimplers don't have a clutch, you will overdrive more times than you would like -- probably just relative as is all advice.
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Joe -- which bit and/or dimpler do you use on your impact gun? I've heard since most dimplers don't have a clutch, you will overdrive more times than you would like -- probably just relative as is all advice.

I bought a two pack off of eBay to use with impact after returning a dewalt Screwgun.

2 pack was a great price. Vermont American the dimpler. Make sure to buy spare Philips heads.
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you guys arte out of your minds if you're saying a cordless is anywhere near the performance level as a even mid-grade gun like Bosch. Drywall is all about the finish. you guys suggesting he spend less money for a cheaper guys are working against that basic goal in mind. The high the RPM's the gun has the cleaner his screw patterns will be. He's more likely to flip his screws when they impact the studs.
My guns have always been makita. Dewalts are good guns but have a narrower cone, which imo makes them harder to load. They drive the screws home by setting them hard. They seem to have a greater torque then most other dun. Hitachi has came out with some really nice guns. short fat cones with the highest rpm's of them all...zip zip and your board is taked up. The hitachi is especially apt to lids. Who wants to hold a board up over their head longer than they could have by investing in a quality tool.....think like this....My very first makita I bought in 93' it just burned up on me last year. even then it may be that I lost the cone somewhere instead....point being do you really think this will be the only drywall job you will ever do. do it right, do it yourself and buy one of the brands mentioned above, you wont regret it later on. remember it's all in the finish. and finishing begins with good hanging...do it the right way
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you guys arte out of your minds if you're saying a cordless is anywhere near the performance level as a even mid-grade gun like Bosch. Drywall is all about the finish. you guys suggesting he spend less money for a cheaper guys are working against that basic goal in mind. The high the RPM's the gun has the cleaner his screw patterns will be. He's more likely to flip his screws when they impact the studs.
My guns have always been makita. Dewalts are good guns but have a narrower cone, which imo makes them harder to load. They drive the screws home by setting them hard. They seem to have a greater torque then most other dun. Hitachi has came out with some really nice guns. short fat cones with the highest rpm's of them all...zip zip and your board is taked up. The hitachi is especially apt to lids. Who wants to hold a board up over their head longer than they could have by investing in a quality tool.....think like this....My very first makita I bought in 93' it just burned up on me last year. even then it may be that I lost the cone somewhere instead....point being do you really think this will be the only drywall job you will ever do. do it right, do it yourself and buy one of the brands mentioned above, you wont regret it later on. remember it's all in the finish. and finishing begins with good hanging...do it the right way
The corded dewalt I sent back was horrible, no consistency in the screw set. Went to impact and dimpler, no issues.
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The corded dewalt I sent back was horrible, no consistency in the screw set. Went to impact and dimpler, no issues.
I've worked with a lot guys around here who only use a dewalt vsr. Most of them have the nose's removed, and set everything from drywall to even toenailing screws in framing. I have a milwaukee shooter and found that when I remove the nose, the bit holder and front assembly is all plastic. The older Dewalt VSR's were all steel, not sure if it matters but personally I'd prefer all steel. I also have a tough time backing screws out with the newer Milwaukee since the nose piece is so close to the tip of the screw, makes it little difficult to find the screw head when you're moving fast -- really slows you down. I'm not a pro and I'm sure I can use to it, but those features about the milwaukee make it a little harder to work with for me.

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