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yochujr 01-11-2011 12:08 AM

Bathroom tiling
 
I am getting ready to remodel out bathroom and it has some outdated tile around the perimeter from the floor up to about 4 1/2 feet high. It also appears to be installed directly onto the drywall. We are trying to finish up the house so we can sell next year so I don't want to sink a ton of money into it but I don't want to cut any big corners. I know I can cut out the drywall and replace it and then just paint everything or I can cut it out and replace with new drywall or backer board and re tile. My question is, does anyone have any other ideas of things I might be able to do that could be cheaper and/or easier? I was thinking maybe a beadboard or wainscoting. Any other suggestions??

One other idea, is there a good option for painting an existing wall tile or would that be out of the question?

epson 01-11-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by yochujr (Post 567476)
One other idea, is there a good option for painting an existing wall tile or would that be out of the question?

Yes you can paint ceramic tile. Start by giving your tiles a good cleaning by using a good bathroom cleaner or a 50/50 mixture of household ammonia and water. After the tiles have dried, give them a light sanding with fine 200 grit sandpaper this will roughen the surface for the primer and paint to stick to the hard shiny tile surface. Clean up any sanding dust with a vacuum then wash the tiles with clean water and let them dry.

Apply painters tape around the areas you don’t wish to paint. Now apply a coat of primer to your tiles. Note: if they're in an area where they'll get lots of moisture (like around your bathtub) use an alcohol based primer, in other areas a latex primer will be fine. After the primer has dried, apply a coat of white semi gloss or high gloss alkyd paint and allow it to dry thoroughly (overnight is good).

One more step is to apply a second coat of your chosen paint and allow it to dry and you’re done. Wait for two or three days to be sure the paint has dried completely and then apply a couple of coats of water based urethane finish to protect the paint. (Oil based urethane will brown or yellow over time while water based will remain clear).

oh'mike 01-11-2011 08:54 AM

If you could post a picture of the bathroom as it is now--I think that you will get a few good suggestions to make your house easier to sell---

yochujr 01-11-2011 08:57 AM

Great idea. It's kind of long and narrow but I'll see if I can get in there and take a few pictures.

yochujr 01-11-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by epson (Post 567491)
Yes you can paint ceramic tile. Start by giving your tiles a good cleaning by using a good bathroom cleaner or a 50/50 mixture of household ammonia and water. After the tiles have dried, give them a light sanding with fine 200 grit sandpaper this will roughen the surface for the primer and paint to stick to the hard shiny tile surface. Clean up any sanding dust with a vacuum then wash the tiles with clean water and let them dry.

Apply painters tape around the areas you donít wish to paint. Now apply a coat of primer to your tiles. Note: if they're in an area where they'll get lots of moisture (like around your bathtub) use an alcohol based primer, in other areas a latex primer will be fine. After the primer has dried, apply a coat of white semi gloss or high gloss alkyd paint and allow it to dry thoroughly (overnight is good).

One more step is to apply a second coat of your chosen paint and allow it to dry and youíre done. Wait for two or three days to be sure the paint has dried completely and then apply a couple of coats of water based urethane finish to protect the paint. (Oil based urethane will brown or yellow over time while water based will remain clear).

Thanks, but I'm not too familiar with alkyd paint. Is this something that is easily accessible at a local home improvement store?

yochujr 01-11-2011 11:54 AM

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If you could post a picture of the bathroom as it is now--I think that you will get a few good suggestions to make your house easier to sell---

Here are some pictures. I've already started taking the 70's flowered wallpaper off that was above the tile. My plans are as follows:

1. Fix the walls one way on another
2. Repaint vanity and keep it but replace the counter top and fixtures
3. Redo the floor. It's really not too bad but there is some grout popping loose and a craked tile. I would contribute this to there being 1/2" subfloor with 1/2" particle underlayment which the the tiles are attached to directly.

I found out the particle board thing when AFTER I already order all of the hardwood for the rest of the house. Needless to say, that was a very big job but I was able to successfully remove it all and lay down new plywood.

Any advise on the best way to tackle this would be great! This will be my first bathroom renovation.

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1910NE 01-11-2011 12:42 PM

i just put wainscoting in my master bath....i doubt you will save time or money by going that route. on the other hand, it sure does look nice when its done.

yochujr 01-11-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 567576)
If you could post a picture of the bathroom as it is now--I think that you will get a few good suggestions to make your house easier to sell---

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Originally Posted by 1910NE (Post 567762)
i just put wainscoting in my master bath....i doubt you will save time or money by going that route. on the other hand, it sure does look nice when its done.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Should I run it floor to celing or just up high enough to cover where I tore out the old wall tile.

I think it would look better only running it up to where the old tile was but my concern is if I run a top cap, how to I cover the corners? Is there a way to run a quarter round or some other molding that will still look good where it intersects the base molding or top cap? I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet but some of the pictures I have seem look very nice.

epson 01-11-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by yochujr (Post 567694)
Thanks, but I'm not too familiar with alkyd paint. Is this something that is easily accessible at a local home improvement store?

Yes you can get it at your home improvement store itís just oil base paintÖ

oh'mike 01-11-2011 11:56 PM

To bad you put off updating that bath till you are ready to move--

It is ugly--the tile work is to high for todays taste--I would pull the mirror--and vanity--
then remove the old drywall that is covered with tile--

Update the lighting with a wall mounted vanity light or two---replace the drywall--vanity and top

add a framed mirror and maybe a chair rail trim and wide baseboards--

That bath is in need of updating.

yochujr 01-18-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 568269)
To bad you put off updating that bath till you are ready to move--

It is ugly--the tile work is to high for todays taste--I would pull the mirror--and vanity--
then remove the old drywall that is covered with tile--

Update the lighting with a wall mounted vanity light or two---replace the drywall--vanity and top

add a framed mirror and maybe a chair rail trim and wide baseboards--

That bath is in need of updating.

I agree with everything you said and plan on doing that very thing along with a new toilet and retile the floor.

Yes, it is a shame but we've only been here for about 2 years so far and the majority of the time has been spent on hardwood thoughtout, repainting every wall in the house, all new trim throughout and various other things. Shortly after we bought the house, the market got really bad and we had to put some of the more costly items off but the past year has been productive. It's almost going to be a shame to have a completely remodeled house and not get to enjoy it before selling! Oh well, I just consider it practice for the next one that we plan on staying in for many years. Thanks for the input.

1910NE 01-19-2011 12:16 PM

have you considered just pulling the tile and then covering everything in 1/4 gypsum and paint?

yochujr 01-19-2011 12:30 PM

Are you talking about 1/4" over what's there? My plan is to cut out the drywall that has the tile on it and patch that with 1/2". Hopefully, I can get the rest of the wallpaper backing off and smooth the walls out enough to paint it.


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