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Old 02-08-2008, 05:01 PM   #31
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ceilings need to be fully fastened with screws in the field anyways.glue would be a waste.gluing walls allows for less screws which makes for an easier and smoother finish.
In my region, screws are required by code every 12" on sheetrock to be taped, more for blue board and plaster....whether you use glue or not....

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Old 02-08-2008, 07:01 PM   #32
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its interesting to read this thread and not have one of you experts quote any literature. every manufacturer of drywall publishes recommended installation instructions for attaching the different drywall assemblies, and if it isn't installed per the manufacturer's instructions, you face a liablility issue. Here's a sample page for a fire wall using 1/2" drywall (similar to one you might use on a house garage, only that would use a different system.
http://www.gp.com/build/PageViewer.aspx?.

In addition to this information, as some of you have stated you have local codes (which may or may not meet the manufacturer's instructions). And for UL listed assemblies, you must meet the specifications that are spelled out in the UL book of Fire Assemblies (which sometimes exceeds the manufacturer's instructions).

All of this literature spells out in detail, how far apart nails, screws, or whatever attachment methods are to be in field and on the edge, and if other means are used to attach, exactly what, how and how much.
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its interesting to read this thread and not have one of you experts quote any literature. every manufacturer of drywall publishes recommended installation instructions for attaching the different drywall assemblies, and if it isn't installed per the manufacturer's instructions, you face a liablility issue. Here's a sample page for a fire wall using 1/2" drywall (similar to one you might use on a house garage, only that would use a different system.
http://www.gp.com/build/PageViewer.aspx?.

In addition to this information, as some of you have stated you have local codes (which may or may not meet the manufacturer's instructions). And for UL listed assemblies, you must meet the specifications that are spelled out in the UL book of Fire Assemblies (which sometimes exceeds the manufacturer's instructions).

All of this literature spells out in detail, how far apart nails, screws, or whatever attachment methods are to be in field and on the edge, and if other means are used to attach, exactly what, how and how much.
Actually, this "expert" did quote literauture. I posted the 2006 IRC fastening schedule for gypsum panels. The "literature" http://www.gp.com/BUILD/DocumentView...elementid=3139 you quoted advised to "get some friends and use t-braces to do the ceilings." These pamphlets are good for DIY's doing weekend projects that don't have the experience/knowledge that a skilled tradesperson has acquired by actually doing the work and seeing the effects of different installation methods.
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its interesting to read this thread and not have one of you experts quote any literature......http://www.gp.com/build/PageViewer.aspx?.

I have no idea what that link goes to ?? (I get a blank page)

But here are two of the manufacturer's installation Guides (USG & National Gypsum:

http://www.usg.com/resources/handboo...0&sectionNum=8

http://www.nationalgypsum.com/litera...dMarX_tear.pdf
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another tip...use nails (less expensive) wherever the fastener is covered with tape.use the screws in the field for better holding power and longer lasting finish (no nail pops)
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OFF TOPIC sort off. I live in Arizona were all wall are rounded corners and textures walls. I am looking to have square corners and smooth walls. Is it possible or feasible to place square corners over the round and re-float the walls to smooth? Or does all of the drywall need to come down and start from scratch???
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OFF TOPIC sort off. I live in Arizona were all wall are rounded corners and textures walls. I am looking to have square corners and smooth walls. Is it possible or feasible to place square corners over the round and re-float the walls to smooth? Or does all of the drywall need to come down and start from scratch???
Thanks guys.
Hi Newbi. Just to help you out:
Generally, it is best to start a new thread to ask such a question. You will get more responses, than attaching a question onto an older thread, that discusses something different.

As far as your question goes: Standard metal corner bead is not the way to go. Because of the rounded edges (there are different dimensioned radiuses), metal corner bead's edges really can't reach the flat portion of the wall and align with it.
I suggest a No-Coat, pre-formed plastic and paper outside corner material. It can be found at drywall supply houses. It is installed using joint compound. ( Ifeel that this is the best method for what you wish to do): http://www.no-coat.com/.docs/pg/10136

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Thanks for the thread tip and for the advice for the corners...saved me a lot of work! Have a great 4th of July!

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