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Old 01-10-2008, 02:45 PM   #16
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on the walls we use heavy glue and 2 or 3 screws in the middle per sheet not per stud. As long as you dont glue the sheet to far ahead of time it will bond. Our builders can attest to this as you will not remove drywall without it busting to pieces. Also fewer screws in the field actually straighten walls and span bowed studs. By floating ceiling corners and keeping everything tight we have made our year end touch ups virtually nonexistint. How anyone can stand behind there product and not use glue is beyond me. If drywall is loose and glued more then likely someone glued out a hole room before they hung. this causes glue to set up before drywall is attached. We glue 2 sheets at a time. Also chuck the nails there antiques. Non of my guys will ever carry a nail. It again will cost you $ to fix when it pops. Any drywaller worth the $ can stand behind his product.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:33 PM   #17
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About 5 years ago I was called in to inspect drywall ceiling failures on the first & second floors of a 40 year old home. The ceilings had not collapsed, but sagging. I’ve seen many a roller coaster ” rock on 2’oc trusses in FL houses built in the 70’s. To my surprise the sag was total like the underside of a bowl wall to wall.

The builder homeowner wanted to try something new. He glued the ceilings up (must have had a lot of dead men) Not the first nail. This was conventional frame 16” oc.

Don’t know if heat or time caused the adhesive (liquid nail like) to stretch. I opened up some areas … the glue was hard and the drywall to out of shape to attempt jack it up and screw.

If you glue fans want to sleep well when you get older… please screw or nail to code & good tried and true practice along with your glue.
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going on 20 years installing drywall the last 10 as a company. I have never not once ever had a problem in that time with sagging or loose sheets. A good part of those years we were turning out 40 houses a month. If any of my guys ever didnt glue they know they would be in huge trouble, possibly fired on the spot. This is a tested and approved method. What you are talking about seems more like water damage. Unless your temps are in the 100's inside I dont see glue ever loosining. . I will say this though. You guys who insist on not gluing or using all those uneeded amount of screws are insuring my repair guys future work and job security. So keep it up. Also keep using straightflex instead of ultraflex. That has kept one guy busy about 10 days a month just going into other drywallers houses and replacing the cracked straightflex for the homeowner.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:05 PM   #19
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going on 20 years installing drywall the last 10 as a company....If any of my guys ever didnt glue they know they would be in huge trouble, possibly fired on the spot. This is a tested and approved method.... I will say this though. You guys who insist on not gluing or using all those uneeded amount of screws are insuring my repair guys future work and job security. So keep it up...
Um, er, well ....we've been a state licensed company that also does drywall and plaster, actually longer than you've been working in the business, and we NEVER glue. We've never had a problem. As stated in an earlier post, we have done schools, public buildings, industries, town & state buildings, hospitals, condos, apts, mansions, stores, houses, malls, etc, etc. - even EXTERIOR Soffit-Board work, with onsite structural/design engineers and architects - inspecting and supervising every aspect of the project.....with NEVER a single problem, issue, sag, crack, or call back .... because of not using glue.

Today, we did have one crew use glue. They were installing Quite Rock over existing walls in a condo remodeling of a building in Boston. They were using glue along with their screws because it was an "overlay" kind of installation.

If you insist that Glue is the way to go (it is an "opinion", and you are entitled to it)...and that is fine, as I am all for overkill (within reason) when it comes to building and construction. However, to state that not using it, is guaranteed that you will have problems is incorrect. (unless you live in a zone that is prone to earthquakes or tremors)

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Old 01-10-2008, 08:02 PM   #20
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I think everyone can agree to disagree. Two different methods, they both work. Play nice.
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I think everyone can agree to disagree. Two different methods, they both work...
That's my point exactly.
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The ONLY way to hang dry wall is with 2 hour epoxy and alternating brass wood screws with 8d ring shank nails spaced at 4 inches. Anything else is insane!

I am kidding of course, just trying to stir the pot!

Seriously though, it seems to me, that regardless of the method, it's the quality of workmanship making the difference not the technique.
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doesent the technique make the quality of workmanship though. I think alot of code requirements are over kill. However this is not one of them. imo Perhaps you guys use dried lumber. It typically appears like our builders get theres 24 hours after it was cut. We dont use glue on metal studs only wood. Perhaps where you are is different but here in pa we have a statewide code. And it calls for glue. I guess I am fond of it simply because I have to pay for call backs like screw pops. I have never been called back for too much glue. So it makes $$ sense.
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Does using glue make the wall transmit any less noise?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:17 PM   #25
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It's advertised to. I can usually bang on a wall and tell if glue was used, but I did it for a long time. There are a couple special adhesives that are made for laminating drywall layers for quiet rooms such as studios and theater rooms.

http://www.greengluecompany.com/
http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietglue.html

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Thats funny. I do the same thing. Even when I am looking at a house I didnt do or visiting friends who have a new house I find myself banging walls without even thinking about it. Drives my wife nuts. My guys hate it as well. But you can tell alot by doing that. If your walls rattle it aint good.
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always glue walls,never glue cielings.my 2 cents
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always glue walls,never glue cielings.my 2 cents
That's more like a penny and a half. Can you justify the reasons for that?
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ceilings need to be fully fastened with screws in the field anyways.glue would be a waste.gluing walls allows for less screws which makes for an easier and smoother finish.
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ceilings need to be fully fastened with screws in the field anyways.glue would be a waste.gluing walls allows for less screws which makes for an easier and smoother finish.
So, glue works on walls but not on ceilings?
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